Our fourth guest for Season 2 of the Sound of Water podcast is Sarah Kim of Liberty in North Korea (LiNK)! LiNK is an international non-governmental organization (NGO) whose aim is to help every North Korean achieve freedom within our lifetime. LiNK focuses on refugee rescue, refugee resettlement, and changing the narrative around North Korean refugees.

Sarah has been serving as the Development Coordinator for LiNK for the past three years. She graduated from the University of California, San Diego with a Bachelor of Arts in International Studies and graduated from the University of California, Riverside with a Masters in Public Policy. Josh and David dive deep into conversation with Sarah to discuss topics about North Korea such as LiNK’s 3000-mile long underground railroad system, China’s complicated relationship with North Korea, living testimonies of North Korean refugees, and more in this powerful and thought-provoking episode!

LiNK website: https://www.libertyinnorthkorea.org/ 

LiNK youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/linkglobal (highly recommend checking this page out. Many tear-jerkers on here so get ya tissues out y’all)

LiNK instagram handle: @libertyinnorthkorea

This is a 50 minute documentary about the millennial generation that grew up during the famine and the growth of the JangMaDang ‘markets’.

Time Stamps:

  • 0:40 David spits fax
  • 2:19 My homeboy…my co-host…Josh.
  • 3:00 Welcome, Sarah Kim of LiNK!
  • 4:27 Who is Sarah Kim?
  • 7:01 Sarah’s role as Development Coordinator
  • 8:15 (Josh love’s LiNK’s branding)
  • 8:50 What does LiNK do?
  • 11:46 3,000 mile modern-day Underground Railroad
  • 13:51 Joy’s testimony
  • 20:31 China’s relationship with North Korea
  • 21:40 How North Korea became North Korea
  • 26:50 Contacting North Koreans
  • 28:17 North Korean government censorship
  • 32:47 How North Koreans can attain freedom
  • 35:51 JangMaDang: North Korea’s secret economy
  • 40:22 How do North Koreans assimilate to new cultures?
  • 43:43 Religious persecution in North Korea
  • 48:06 Media portrayal of North Korea
  • 51:30 Otto Warmbier
  • 54:03 Aren’t dictatorships out of style?
  • 56:32 Traveling to North Korea
  • 60:33 Re-unification of the two Koreas
  • 66:12 Misconceptions about North Korea
  • 71:33 Actionable steps
  • 73:05 The cost of rescuing a North Korean
  • 74:08 North Korean food
  • 76:00 Sarah’s growth + closing thoughts

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